Just enjoyed listening to this 3 hours conversation (I am a Timcast Supporter) this was so good! Two very different side of all the issues but 1) they agreed on a lot of issues that you may not realize and 2) I learned a lot!! This is how you have a hard conversations!! This is what I want to help us all find MORE of and less if the narrative that is being curated because someone thinks it’s what we need to know.
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/timcast-irl/id1503517959?i=1000530937899